DAMEHT: – It really suggested itself, that song came with that idea and respect of the record. We started the record in Los Angeles and the song suggested the art direction. The reference to Pamela Rooke (Jordan) was really an archetype for punk rock, this title that’s been following us – “there it is” – coming in all of if insecurities to us, really they are the sweetest and most vulnerable people usually – it’s not as dark as when it’s in a suit-and-tie perhaps. She comes in as an archetype to us – who are not punk – and dancing with us.